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The War Cry | NOVEMBER 2015
A Conversation
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tions I had asked in Korea. What I knew, I shared. When
uncertain, I'd say, "I don't know the answer; but let's talk
about the question." It helped them. It helped me. To be
receptive and honest with the young Marine who shares
from the depths [of his soul] is basic ministry.
Chaplains should be the spiritual bearers of faith,
hope, compassion and healing.
Classified as noncombatants, chaplains are prohib-
ited from bearing arms. Since all members of a Marine
battalion are armed, except the chaplain, one less com-
batant makes little difference in firepower. But it
makes a world of difference in spiritual ministry.
The chaplain's weapon is the Word of God.
CW:
During your fi rst tour in Vietnam you were
relieved by your fellow Navy chaplain, Father Vin-
cent Capodanno, who a few weeks later perished
in a fi refi ght. What was the impact on you?
ET:
Chaplain Vincent Robert Capodanno stands as a
model of spirituality and sacrificial love.
On Operation SWIFT, Father Capodanno hitched a
ride and was being flown by helicopter to the battle
area. His destination was a hastily assembled medical
aid station. Enemy ground fire forced the choppers to
land short of their goal. As troops made their way by
foot, an overwhelming North Vietnamese Army (NVA)
force attacked. Casualties were heavy. Chaplain Capo-
danno crawled from man to man, praying with the
wounded, comforting the fearful. The hunks of shrap-
nel that tore into his shoulder and blew away part of
his left hand couldn't deter him. The NVA withdrew
and regrouped. Later, as the company was being over-
run again, Capodanno deliberately shielded a small
cluster of wounded Marines and a Navy corpsman from
the sights of a North Vietnamese machine-gunner. He
received 27 gunshot wounds in the back and was killed.
A Marine asked me, "If life meant so much to Father
Capodanno, why did he allow it to be taken?" The an-
swer was in the question. "It was precisely because he
loved life--the lives of others--that he freely gave his
own," I replied. "Jesus said, `Greater love hath no man
than this, that a man lay down his life for his friends"
(John 15:13 KJV). (Vinnie Capodanno was the bravest
chaplain I've ever known. He was awarded the Con-
gressional Medal of Honor posthumously.
CW:
You have been quoted as saying: "In semi-
nary I'd been taught about the ministry. In Viet-
nam, we were all ministers, one to another."
What did you mean?
ET:
In Vietnam, we were all ministers: the kid serving
chow, the doctor, the battalion commander... the list
goes on.
Kipling's poem Gunga Din, deals with a humble
Indian who served British soldiers. Gunga Din didn't
wield a weapon. He carried life-sustaining water for
the troops. In the Marine infantry units I served,
each man was a Gunga Din, a "grunt water carrier,"
making personal sacrifices for his buddies, regardless
of the cost, which was often extremely high. We are
called to be present for one another... but more so on
the field of battle.
CW:
What advice would you pass along to
chaplains?
ET:
Don't be a phony. "Walk your talk" and "practice
what you preach" are apt clich�s. Combat offers chap-
lains ample opportunity to live out their sermons about
faith, courage, charity and sacrifice. Most chaplains I
knew in Vietnam walked the second mile, faithfully.
Military chaplaincy is a specialized calling, one that
necessitates cooperation with fellow chaplains, irre-
spective of their denomination. Maintain a gung-ho
spirit. Work harmoniously with others. Don't dis-
rupt. Don't compete. Help your outfit become one.
As a servant of God, do your work faithfully, gladly, for
the sake of others. Everything else will fall in place.
Reprinted from the offi cial blog of the U.S. Navy Chaplain
Corps and edited for space. It originally ran on Nov. 8, 2013,
and can be read at chaplaincorps.navylive.dodlive.mil
Salvation Army chaplains like Richard Holz,
shown here
with "Sweet Chariot" in the South Pacifi c during WWII,
have been "spiritual bearers of faith, hope, compassion
and healing" for troops during wartime.
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